tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post1507841645823033891..comments2024-03-22T06:21:16.897-07:00Comments on JJ's Wargames: All at Sea - Spanish Third Rates of Renown (Monarca)carojonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-1707553531528351962020-11-09T18:55:12.908-08:002020-11-09T18:55:12.908-08:00Another fantastic edition to your fleet! Cheers Gr...Another fantastic edition to your fleet! Cheers GregDelta Coyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991890687374165828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-82908273246079232182020-11-08T08:29:44.348-08:002020-11-08T08:29:44.348-08:00The armament of the spanish ships at Trafalgar is ...The armament of the spanish ships at Trafalgar is well Known as the official inventory is preserved and published (in spanish). It doesn´t fit with the official ordinances of the time, but those ordinances already included a sizable number of howitzers. No carronades were considered on the ordinances, but that didn´t prevent that some spanish ships had a few of them.<br />The inventory lists several light weapons, but it´s presumed that the 4 pdr howitzers and similar weapons were not used aboard the ship but their main use was to equip the ship´s boats when neccesary. <br />In the weblink I provided,you´ll see that for Monarca the total guns/howitzers are given as 80 (64 guns + 16 howitzers) instead of 86, because the 6 4-pounders are cited but not counted as main armament.<br /><br />Greetings.<br /><br /><br />Larraspurunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-79588408121809519262020-11-08T05:57:12.522-08:002020-11-08T05:57:12.522-08:00Hi Larraspuru,
Thank you and thanks for the update...Hi Larraspuru,<br />Thank you and thanks for the update on the class notes and armament.<br />I must admit to a more superficial knowledge of the Spanish navy and the armament quotes come from Mark Adkins, and I was surprised he made no mention of carronades or howitzers as you describe them, although I have always thought a 4-pounder was a bit light for that kind of close in weapon. <br /><br />Cheers<br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-23698897115703649462020-11-08T05:52:45.501-08:002020-11-08T05:52:45.501-08:00Hi Paul,
Thank you, glad you are enjoying them. On...Hi Paul,<br />Thank you, glad you are enjoying them. Once the Spanish third rates are reviewed I will be showing the first set of scratch builds completed which include the 80-gun and 64-gun third rates.<br /><br />Cheers<br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-88454817023716423392020-11-08T03:29:30.429-08:002020-11-08T03:29:30.429-08:00Another great work. I´m sorry but wikipedia´s Mona...Another great work. I´m sorry but wikipedia´s Monarca page is wrong. There was never a series of four Montañes class ships of line. Monarca was an "Ildefonsino" class 74 ship and Montañes was a lone 74 ship, designed by Retamosa as an improvemente of the class. The trials between the two were made in fact to decide the better design for follow up 74 ships, but in the end Montañes was the last 74 spanish ship of line.<br />On Trafalgar, Monarca´s armament was: 28 x 24, 30 x 18 and 6 x 8 pdr guns; plus 10 x 30, 6 x 24 and 6 x 4 pdr howitzers. <br />https://www.todoababor.es/datos_docum/arm_nav_traf_vent.htmLarraspurunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-84702239020366778002020-11-07T02:54:42.461-08:002020-11-07T02:54:42.461-08:00I love this series JJ, your posts are a great reso...I love this series JJ, your posts are a great resource for anyone interested in the period.<br />Regards,<br />Paul.Paul Liddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671334487545618109noreply@blogger.com