tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post5605394086769754559..comments2024-03-29T04:27:37.731-07:00Comments on JJ's Wargames: Over the Hills - Napoleonic Rules Play-testcarojonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-35653090062858152972018-08-10T14:59:51.954-07:002018-08-10T14:59:51.954-07:00Thanks for your comments chaps. Glad you found the...Thanks for your comments chaps. Glad you found the review helpful and are enjoying the rules.<br /><br />Mike - yes we followed the rules by simply having the ranges suggested in the army lists and kept to inches. Where we felt a certain commander warranted a change to that we slightly increased or decreased them accordingly.carojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-11410059143729391432018-08-10T11:55:30.607-07:002018-08-10T11:55:30.607-07:00We've been playing these rules at our club rec...We've been playing these rules at our club recently and we're using your QRF. We also use the same basing that you do, having previously played Napoleon at War. I'd be interested to hear how you handled the command range of your brigade & divisional commanders, did you halve that for 15mm?Mike Robertsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-46331206621594313422018-04-02T06:32:48.063-07:002018-04-02T06:32:48.063-07:00Again a great review, tried these rules at my club...Again a great review, tried these rules at my club on Saturday and liked them. your review confirms this and I have printed off your QRF sheets to use with my 10mm Prussian and French.Scotsgreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020204485038152417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-839479046087853292018-01-19T07:36:41.297-08:002018-01-19T07:36:41.297-08:00Thanks for the great review mate, i think i found ...Thanks for the great review mate, i think i found what i was looking for at last :)gromukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18058524827248433163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-70060732660904313782017-04-30T04:06:51.800-07:002017-04-30T04:06:51.800-07:00Hi Ricardo, than you.
My reference to IGOUGO syste...Hi Ricardo, than you.<br />My reference to IGOUGO systems refers to the old wargaming system of breaking up the move, fire, rally sequence in some rule sets into player segments, namely I go first and then you go second and so on.<br />This system of (I go, You go) shortened in English to (IGOUGO) builds in predictability because one player will know they will get to go after the other and thus deal with a given situation. In addition, particularly in large games, one player will sit out and not be doing very much whilst the other gets on with their move. <br />The point I was making is that OTH and its sequence of play, overcomes some of these issues to a greater of lesser extent.<br />I hope that is clear<br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-29919869571978155482017-04-30T03:51:46.218-07:002017-04-30T03:51:46.218-07:00Thanks for the review! Sorry but I hadn't unde...Thanks for the review! Sorry but I hadn't undestood the "NOT-I go you go system".<br />Can you please re-explain it? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06391866959780895743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-10692261684704225712016-10-30T11:16:10.995-07:002016-10-30T11:16:10.995-07:00Thank you Ralph, glad you enjoyed the read.
JJThank you Ralph, glad you enjoyed the read.<br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-45896356109769318162016-10-30T03:08:50.430-07:002016-10-30T03:08:50.430-07:00Excellent review. I think you summed up Over the H...Excellent review. I think you summed up Over the Hills very well indeed.Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00344123586304045435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-18590243491531800442016-10-30T03:02:39.942-07:002016-10-30T03:02:39.942-07:00Thanks for your comments chaps, glad you enjoyed t...Thanks for your comments chaps, glad you enjoyed the read. If you are looking for a new set of Napoleonic rules these are definitely worth checking out.<br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-18780313851628480722016-10-30T03:01:09.090-07:002016-10-30T03:01:09.090-07:00Thanks Steve and well played. I think it would be ...Thanks Steve and well played. I think it would be fun to try these rules with the Pajar scenario as those sides are quite well balanced but would be brittle only having base FS of about 5-6 for most of the units. The Spanish would be the strongest units on the table but start with a weak FS. The second British brigade would be the game arbiter if they are deployed correctly, oh and the dice gods were on side!carojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-27456768189198148712016-10-29T23:51:25.574-07:002016-10-29T23:51:25.574-07:00Wonderful review, thanks for putting the time into...Wonderful review, thanks for putting the time into it. Sound like a 'solid' rule-set.Normhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05031444717952755557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-44062070552493913482016-10-29T17:45:48.574-07:002016-10-29T17:45:48.574-07:00Great review. Very valuable.Great review. Very valuable.David Cookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17148983897942472092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-45245593700963041352016-10-25T07:37:30.192-07:002016-10-25T07:37:30.192-07:00Sounds great, I m buying it. Excellent review btw!...Sounds great, I m buying it. Excellent review btw!Mike Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529325527310113577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-29972566572815431702016-10-23T12:34:14.491-07:002016-10-23T12:34:14.491-07:00If I ever cave in to the ever-looming Napoleonics ...If I ever cave in to the ever-looming Napoleonics temptation, I'll be sure to give them a look, thanks!Endtransmissionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11668764504686502861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-13540129226533225582016-10-23T02:32:16.530-07:002016-10-23T02:32:16.530-07:00A good opening game, they certainly have potential...A good opening game, they certainly have potential. There would have been more positive comments if my dice hadn't been so bad! :)Steve Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07495063704818499780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-21053823513209135642016-10-23T01:46:48.774-07:002016-10-23T01:46:48.774-07:00Thanks Jonathan glad you enjoyed the review.
Yes c...Thanks Jonathan glad you enjoyed the review.<br />Yes call it what you will, fatigue, morale, cohesion, the point is that armies of this and most periods didn't attempt to kill every living sole whilst the enemy still had the will to fight. The process was all about breaking that will and when the enemy was forced to think about breaking off the fight, taking the battle to a broken foe and inflicting the casualties in the pursuit.<br /><br />Occasionally you ended up with a Cannae cauldron battle that in ancient times resulted in a blood bath but certainly in the Napoleonic period a totally surrounded beaten army would offer and be given terms of surrender.<br /><br />Thus a rule set that allows you to model that degradation of the will to fight and resist appeals to me every time over a game of trying to inflict more casualties than the other chap to accrue a points victory. I guess the basic point is a system like this encourages players to think about having the end in mind right at the start of play and that means trying your best to keep a reserve that can finish the battle in your favour, just like the historical event we are trying to model.<br /><br />Cheers<br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-1015554417100292282016-10-22T16:46:05.558-07:002016-10-22T16:46:05.558-07:00Jonathan, excellent review! As I read your review...Jonathan, excellent review! As I read your review, I keep thinking that Fatigue Status is just another term for the same method of having a unit's capability degenerate over time. Impetvs uses VBU, some rules use Cohesion, some Combat Effectiveness, others Resolve. All measure similar attributes. Based on your review alone, it sounds an interesting set.<br /><br />Your effort and insight much appreciated!Jonathan Freitaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07862373894196924886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-7160456376985712592016-10-22T15:46:21.372-07:002016-10-22T15:46:21.372-07:00Hi Paul, yes the rules are attractive and well lai...Hi Paul, yes the rules are attractive and well laid out with plenty of substance and Napoleonic theme built into them. Well worth checking out.carojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-70768672683343042292016-10-22T15:44:12.054-07:002016-10-22T15:44:12.054-07:00I think these rules will make for some fun at club...I think these rules will make for some fun at club and I am looking forward to giving them another go. The basic design is so open to adaption and aspects from C&G could be added in, such as the range sticks, changing the angles of fire from straight lanes and fatigue for gun crews that try to blaze away through the game. As you can see I have lots of ideas to try out.carojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-75853711848075099892016-10-22T10:51:29.119-07:002016-10-22T10:51:29.119-07:00Those look like an interesting set of rules and a ...Those look like an interesting set of rules and a really nice looking rulebookEndtransmissionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11668764504686502861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-21370479495469167112016-10-22T07:59:42.616-07:002016-10-22T07:59:42.616-07:00The sound an interesting rule set JJ. I am more in...The sound an interesting rule set JJ. I am more inclined to believe that "fatigue" represents a units state better than "casualties" and give a better range of effects a formation is likely to face. At the end of the day we are back to "morale", which is a combination of so many more things than just the number of men killed or wounded.<br /><br />You will never convince me "Carnage & Glory" are any good, because they lack the interaction of seeing that dice roll back onto a one ! Anyway, as Chas say, "tis witchcraft, I tell 'ee".<br /><br />VinceVincehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03691369848035290908noreply@blogger.com