tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post6625874964938074466..comments2024-03-22T06:21:16.897-07:00Comments on JJ's Wargames: Broke of the Shannon and the War of 1812 - Tim Voelckercarojonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-14218229405780815452020-10-16T03:52:32.556-07:002020-10-16T03:52:32.556-07:00Hi Jeremy,
Yes indeed. The suggestion that was mad...Hi Jeremy,<br />Yes indeed. The suggestion that was made that the Chesapeake was not a sound ship ready and able for her mission is covered in Chapter 5 where Tim Voelcker goes through the various claims, that first she was an unlucky ship and that she was not fit for purpose.<br /><br />Lawrence was a very experienced captain and Voelcker lists the work he did over the ten days following his appointment, resolving disputes about payments of previous prize monies, recruiting men to bring the ship up to strength with a strict selection criteria based on experience and knowledge of gun drill. In deed her log book records ten days of exercising with the great guns, small arms and boarding practice, together with her reconnaissance of the harbour entrance prior to her sailing to find out what British ships were operating locally, which rather puts paid to a claim by Admiral Chadwick in 1913 that 'Not a gun crew had been exercised, not a sail had been bent before the day of the action'<br /><br />The fact that she caused the Shannon to suffer 83 casualties is indicative of the training and experience displayed by the Chesapeakes and helps to illustrate the high level of ability and courage of the Shannons to overcome in the face of that return fire.<br /><br />carojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-24122233357244857032020-10-16T03:31:53.710-07:002020-10-16T03:31:53.710-07:00You don't have time to get into frigates and b...You don't have time to get into frigates and brigs, what with all those Napoleonic 28mm Spanish you have to do! Nice collection of French and British by the way.<br /><br />Yes I know what you mean about rules which is why I started to look at War by Sail and doing a bit of tweaking with them which has come to a stall with the current situation but I expect to pick that back up once things return to normal.carojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-50945030681102477892020-10-15T13:39:04.649-07:002020-10-15T13:39:04.649-07:00I'm sorely tempted to buy a few frigates, brig...I'm sorely tempted to buy a few frigates, brigs and such to do small actions. It would be my third collection of 'age of sail' ships. I always end up selling them for want of good rules that give a good, reasonably historically accurate game, that everyone can follow. IMHO, rules for this period tend to be too simple, or too complicated, or written orders. The latter drive me crazy, especially when playing ditherers - God Bless 'em.JAMES ROACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019888286247164276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-36426916914768501492020-10-15T12:13:12.007-07:002020-10-15T12:13:12.007-07:00Perhaps the most significant aspect was that this ...Perhaps the most significant aspect was that this was the first naval contest of the war between equally matched combatants - previous American successes had been against inferior opponents - and it resulted in an overwhelming victory for the Royal Navy.Jeremy Ramseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12250118143994161913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-63020608594777726232020-10-15T08:15:06.319-07:002020-10-15T08:15:06.319-07:00Hi James,
Yes me to, and once I can get back to f...Hi James, <br />Yes me to, and once I can get back to face to face gaming I intend to pick up on my series of games I started at the beginning of the year where we refought a few actions from the history book.<br /><br />Interestingly I noted that we played the Shannon v Chesapeake in a game at the DWG played in the bicentennial year, the link is below for interest.<br /><br />http://devonwargames.blogspot.com/2013/09/hms-shannon-vs-uss-chesapeake-1st-june.html<br /><br />I have Roosevelt's book and agree it is a pivotal study and a good read. I hope you enjoy this one.<br /><br />JJcarojonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11826580638291659193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2591229843590982581.post-66272461437688202922020-10-14T05:20:49.320-07:002020-10-14T05:20:49.320-07:00I've always loved frigate actions since readin...I've always loved frigate actions since reading James Henderson's (?) The Frigates. It reads like a boy's own adventure stories. I'll put this book on my Christmas list.<br /><br />I suppose the defining book on The Naval War of 1812 is the one by Franklin Roosevelt - was it his thesis for his PhD? That's also a great, must have book. I believe the ship on ship action diagram in this post is from that book.<br /><br />Thanks for the heads up.<br /><br />JamesJAMES ROACHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019888286247164276noreply@blogger.com